Ethnogeneses Around the Black Sea and along the Danube. Present day Romania, the turntable of Old & New Europe.

1] 6500BC> 5000BC – Neolithic Farmers come to Balkans from the Middle East >> Vinca & Cucuteni cultures. Best living conditions, farming lands – along the lower Danube and on the shores of the Big Fresh Water Lake. Due to farming, populations increases.neolithic expansion

Neolithicfarmer_thumb10r1a_thumb82] Byzantine Creation Era  ”The Making of the World”- Facerea Lumii – 5600 BC – the breaking of the Bosphorus, the Fresh Water Lake becomes the Salt Water Black Sea. The Proto Getes living around the banks of Black Sea migrate outwards. ProtoGetes going up the Danube to Western Europe became ProtoCelts and ProtoGetes going east became Massagetae / IndoAryans – vedic&iranian cultures.




3] Old Europe heydays, before R1b & R1a migrations. Old Europe – peaceful non ierarhic civilisation = a mix of original I1,2 europeans and J1,E1,G neolithical ”farmers”.

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4] R1b migrations
4.1] first they enter in Old Europe / Lower Danube region starting at -4200BC
4.2] than they go up the Danube to Western Europe after -2800Bc
4.3] into France and N of Spain starting with  -2250Bc
4.4] conquest of Anatolia after -2000Bc
4.5] conquest of Greece after 1800Bc
4.6] invade the N of Italy starting with -1200Bc

4.7] Than back from W to E and S – the celtic migrations – Urnfield, Hallstat & La Tene
4.7.1] Precursors of Illyrians from Pannonia to Dalmatia starting -1000Bc!?
4.7.2] Celts contribution to Dacian foundation in Transilvania starting -500Bc until the Burebista push back in first century BC



5] R1a migrations.
5.1] Enter Old Europe/Lower Danube starting -4200-3000Bc
5.2] Go up the Danube, and over Estern Europe TO Western Europe, starting -2800Bc
5.3] From Central Asia to India starting -1700Bc R1a  Y-DNA  - Eupedia
The separation began in Southern Ukraine, on the frontier between the fertile right bank of the Dnieper inhabited by Trypillian farmers and the Eurasian steppes, which from then on became home to agile and warlike pastoral peoples. In the 4th millennium B.C., the territory of Ukraine became a buffer zone between the settled and peaceful farmers of Europe and the aggressive nomads of the Eurasian steppe. This defined Ukraine’s turbulent history for the next 5,000 years, up to the 18th century. europe 4000ienCattle breeding skills inherited from the Trypillians quickly evolved into a separate industry in the steppes and forest-steppes of left-bank (eastern) Ukraine. Herds of cows and flocks of sheep were constantly relocating in search of pastures, making the pastoralists very flexible. In turn, this facilitated the spread of wheel transportation and the domestication of horses, which were initially used to pull wagons alongside oxen. This constant search for pastures led to violent conflicts among neighbouring groups and the militarization of these communities. Unlike the farmers who had matriarchal societies, the pastoralists’ leaders were male, since shepherds and warriors provided for life. The opportunity to own many cattle triggered stratification. In the militarized society, warlords emerged. Early fortresses were built, and cults of warriors and shepherds as supreme gods spread, along with common symbols such as chariots, weapons, horses, the sun cross (later appropriated by the Nazis) and fire.
The steppe economy of the 4th-3rd millennia B.C. was based on seasonal livestock grazing. The families settled in river valleys and grew barley and wheat, bred pigs, hunted and fished, while men spent more and more time with the herds of cows, sheep and horses at summer pastures. In spring, shepherds and armed warriors would take the cattle far into the steppes and return home in the fall. As pastoralism developed, this lifestyle grew more nomadic. Thus, the Ukrainian steppes played a pivotal role in the emergence of Indo-European peoples. Their pastoral economy, the spread of wheeled transportation, the use of horses and oxen as draft animals and horseback riding gradually turned them into aggressive nomads and launched the unprecedented spread of the earliest Indo-Europeans from Southern Ukraine in the vast steppes all the way from the Upper Danube in the west to Altai and India in the east.

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In pursuit of the arian homeland .. many elements of the Indo-European protolanguage, such as mountains and swamps, aspen, beech, yew, heather, grouse, beaver and the like do not fit into the steppe flora and fauna. These are more typical in parts of Europe that are cooler and damper than Southern Ukraine.. At the lower Danube, r1amgrmigration split into three directions. One went southeast to Anatolia. The other headed to the Balkans and Greece, and the third moved westward to Central Europe. Thus, the pastoralists that inhabited the Black Sea steppes in the 4th-2nd millennia B.C. became the distant ancestors of Indo- and Iran Aryans, and the Anatolian, Greek, Armenian and Phrygian branches of the Indo-European language family. As they reached the upper Danube, they shaped the Central European epicentre of the Indo-European ethnogenesis from which the ancestors of Celts, Italics, Illyrians, Germans, Balts and Slavs emerge.


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